[sumo] [Spoiler]New banzuke
R. Brown
brownro214 at gmail.com
Mon Dec 26 08:06:56 EST 2022
That's some great detail. Thanks Jan.
Kodaiyama
On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 7:39 AM Jan de Veen via Sumo <sumo at webtrek.com>
wrote:
> Rikishi being listed as a lone Ozeki on a banzuke - subsequently requiring
> a Yokozuna (if present) to be designated as Yokozuna-Ozeki - is rare but
> not ultra rare. It actually happened more frequently in the late 1970's and
> early 1980's and a couple of times in he 1950's as well. And we (me
> included) already seem to have forgotten the last time we only had one
> Ozeki. Just like this time it was also Takakeisho, namely during Haru 2020
> (after Goeido's demotion).
>
> But I hadn't seen a single previous occasion of both 4 Sekiwake and 4
> Komusubi occur on a banzuke until Akinomaki in the Sumo Forum pointed out
> that Japanese media had already mentioned the last time it happened, namely
> 1962 Natsu. That banzuke had 3 Yokozuna and 3 Ozeki as well, tough, making
> a total of 13 rikishi ranked at Komusubi or higher.
>
> However, I'm relatively confident that only 1 Ozeki on a banzuke (let
> alone with 1 Yokozuna, never mind if he's designated as Yokozuna-Ozeki or
> not) in COMBINATION with 4 Sekiwake and 4 Komusubi probably never occurred
> before. 😉
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Chijanofuji
> On 26-Dec-22 04:30, Murray Johnson wrote:
>
> 1993 Hatsu Akebono Y Konishiki O was one instance.
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 10:38 AM R. Brown <brownro214 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The matter of the yokozuna-ozeki was discussed during the last basho when
>> it became apparent Shodai would be demoted. I personally do not recall
>> another instance of the current configuration in the 30 years I have been
>> following sumo.
>>
>> Kodaiyama
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 25, 2022 at 8:21 PM Inside Sport: Japan <
>> insidesportjapan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There must always be two ozeki so Terunofuji is listed as
>>> ‘yokozuna-ozeki’ this basho just as Kakuryu was a few years ago when there
>>> was also only one true ozeki.
>>>
>>> > On Dec 26, 2022, at 10:12, Jan de Veen via Sumo <sumo at webtrek.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > As far as I know it has never occurred before.
>>> >
>>> > Only one Ozeki does occur more frequently than we might think, but
>>> both 4 Sekiwake and 4 Komusubi is already unprecedented, let alone in
>>> combination with only 1 Ozeki.
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards,
>>> >
>>> > Chijanofuji
>>> >
>>> > On 26-Dec-22 01:30, R. Brown wrote:
>>> >> Four sekiwaki and four komusubi, but only one ozeki. When was the
>>> last time there was such a ranking?
>>> >>
>>> >> Kodaiyama
>>
>>
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