[sumo] Tachiai question

[Jeffrey Anderson]

And you just answered it yourself.

They don’t have to go down simultaneously. two can be down by one rikishi
and one by the other. They can legally go when that fourth hand hits the
ground, but I don’t know when I’ve last seen that fourth hand hit the
ground in 10 years or more! 😄

It’s interesting that in amasumo, they both have their hands fully on the
ground and only go when the gyoji gives them the command.

Best regards,
Jeffrey Anderson
Gaijingai
For of all sad words of tongue or pen,
The saddest are these:
It might have been.
- John Greenleaf Whittier


On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 9:23 AM David Luke <david42luke at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Minor spoiler alert in case there is anyone who doesn’t yet know the
> outcome of the Aki basho…
>
> Question: How “simultaneous” does the touch down need to be at the tachiai?
>
> I was re-watching the tournament-winning bout of Onosato and Hoshoryu on
> day 14, and noticed in the slow-mo replay that Onosato started charging
> forward significantly before Hoshoryu touched down — at least 18 video
> frames, or 0.6 seconds, when Hoshoryu’s hands were still a good foot above
> the ground. Onosato kept his hands in contact with the dohyo while moving
> forward for another 12 frames, but even so his hands left the ground six
> frames (0.2 seconds) before Hoshoryu touched down, when Hoshoryu’s hands
> were still about 8 inches up. By the time Hoshoryu started to move forward,
> Onosato already had the better part of a second of acceleration going —
> which was certainly the key to his quick victory.
>
> So, by how much can a rikishi jump the gun and still have it be legal?
>
>
> (I’m guessing the answer will be “as much as they can get away with
> without the gyoji calling them on it”…)
>
>
>
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